they're all excited about that it's true
where's
the subur somewhere
inele we have a friend of mine that's
got one that lives right over Fish Lake
in South okay and then another guy lives
on Rome Road so I'm going take some logs
to him come
up I'm glad you're here there's chairs
what's
that yeah the first half didn't look
good they were playing with them a
little I don't
know well Vikings are a good team but I
just didn't like to play call lions were
doing just
like frustrating
it had me walking around quite a bit
like I want
that red chees aren't the best Chuck I
sent an email out to the whole Township
saying you were to be here that's why we
got a good crowd okay they go
Chuck yep Chuck's going to be
here there
that David's not here
all right cool that's all right like
it you doing
your think
maybe unless he told not to
start
it there
too okay uh we'll get
started and I'll call the meeting to
order stand for the uh Pledge of
Allegiance
please Al to the flag of the United
States of America and to the Republic
for it stands one nation God indivisible
with liy and justice for
all Shar this with you can have one we
have a roll
call Greg CS here Jennifer Eden here
Sarah dolman Jersey here Herman Ferguson
here Dean H here Chris Reta here Pam
offler
here all right
uh before I ask for approval of the
agenda I I have a couple questions
Chuck
um obviously uh pertaining to number one
business new business number
one
uh you you wrote the censor I drafted
them you drafted the sensor and uh that
was with the help of uh a board member
or one
two um I have talked to more than one
trustee officer about that they did not
help draft it they asked me to draft
something that said a c and d
okay all righty
um yeah I just I wondered cuz some some
of the uh some of the verbiage in there
it like
references it suggests uh you have
subtle references of my state of mind
you know intention of intimidating and
Mis
characterization I just wondered how you
knew what I was thinking anyway uh
moving on so uh you drafted the the
sensor and then uh the board member the
board member submits it to the clerk is
that
correct I imagine that's how for and
they put it on the the agenda is that
how it goes okay
so Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday
Monday Tuesday six days notice
that's that's okay that's within the law
or point of order we're discussing an
agenda item before uh yeah we're we're
discussing whether it even belongs on
the agenda okay
so and I need to understand this I'm
sorry
so the sensor is is is on the agenda all
right
so if a resident
if if I as a
supervisor regarding a charge of
nonfeasance I could charge a board
member with
non-fe there is no law in Michigan that
allows
charge or oh a board
member can charge another board member
with nonent there's no law michig that
says any board member can charge any
other board member or the board itself
charge a member of the board with any of
those the only law that there is when it
comes to that type of thing is the board
charging PC
members so if you're looking at the
centure and you're trying to think is
this a charge of Mal fees mises or nones
the answer is it is not
the penalty for those three things with
the board to the PC is the potential for
removal there is no right there is no
way to do that at the board
home can a
resident charge a board member with
non-fe residents can't do that
either okay
all right uh any other questions on the
agenda I guess yeah I have a some
statement about and for some changes if
I could if I
may okay um I'd like the resolutions for
senture removed from the agenda for the
following reasons uh trusty dolman
Jersey who wrote the resolutions of
censure with the help of the the
attorney as he's mentioned um says the
following the board has reviewed the
actions and decisions made by the
supervisor trustee there's three of them
as you can see in the
packet um in the execution of his duties
and found discrepancies that warant
formal
censure uh no the board has not reviewed
this nor was it presented to all the
board members for discussion and opinion
hasn't been here yet we haven't even had
a meeting on it yet so the board has not
done
that these resolutions are just the same
uh just the same as the PC nonfeasance
letters that went
out board hasn't talked to about them
yet board hasn't discussed them I don't
see the difference then not why they're
on the agend I'm talking please thank
you I'm making a statement please don't
interrupt
uh so should we just charge trusty
dolman jersey with the same cental
resolution as she's charging us these
resolutions were not only published in
the meeting packet for today's meeting
agreed but trusty dolman Jersey found it
necessary to appear on local radio
programs to discuss the particulars of
these partic these uh uh items and and
this uh meeting packet and these uh
resolutions for censure on local radio
and uh before the even review took place
I'm I'm not sure why you know why why is
that uh something that's in the best
interest of uh of uh things it's it's
very transparent of course right really
really Ultra transparent but you'd think
it'd be appropriate to talk about those
things before you go on local radio or
any kind of news or other things so but
that's uh this is certainly an issue
with the VAR standards and ex ethics
that she is accusing us with that sense
so uh and along those lines of standards
and ethics because clerk mowler in the
past has disparaged myself and my wife
to Residents and Township employees and
elected officials should we bring
censored charges against her based on
that too based on ethical issues I don't
think so that doesn't serve the
community are there other charges for
other things going on in the township
that would not also comply with
standards and ethics issues
such as maybe misuse of Township
equipment or anything that else that we
should consider in the same line as
these resolutions are we going to get
into a battle or a war of this this
isn't what the this is not what the
people voted for in this
Township I think these uh resolutions
are complete overreaction to the
situation and not the way to Foster
communication and growth and things of
that
nature the voters elected us to work
together will that be perfect every time
no no we don't live in a perfect world
of course it won't be perfect but to go
to this extreme when no laws were
violated and no evidence against
standards and ethics violations were
included show that working together is
not or may not be the agenda of trusty
dolman Jersey and any of those who
support this
effort so with regard to the Planning
Commission
bylaws the Planning Commission bylaws
were followed section
412b States members shall be removed by
the Township board for misfeasance
malfeasance or nonfeasance in office
upon written charges and after a public
hearing bylaws are available on our
website by the way for anybody who wants
them it's right there uh this is also
consist the the language that's used in
the uh in the Michigan planning and
enablement act as
well the uh written charges were
presented by the township supervisor
Greg CS including a notice to appear
before the Board of Trustees for
review not for
removal at no time were the charges
represented as removal in themselves the
charges were be followed
up by the appearance of each planning
commissioner in front of the board to
answer those charges and only afterward
the Board of Trustees would vote for or
against the commissioner's
removal the board has to
vote the board board has to vote for the
appointment and the board has to point
uh vote for the approval just to be very
clear to those who are interested there
seems to be really Confusion by some of
the members of the board that section
412b of the PC bylaws says that the
board trustees must approve the charges
in addition to all the steps leading up
to a vote or
dismissal the Michigan planning uh but
they do
not the Michigan planning enabling act
act 33 of 20 uh 2008 section
12538 159 says the legislative body May
remove a member of the by the way the
board we guys are the legislative body
if you remember from our training
the legislative body May remove a member
of the Planning Commission for
misfeasance malfeasant or nonfeasance in
office upon written charges and after
public hearing which is what the PC
bylaw States that's what it's reflected
however the law is
silent on how the charges are to be
delivered by whom the charges are to be
delivered and whether the Township Board
must approve the charges prior to their
delivery just says the board has to
approve it the board is respons
responsible to approve this but the
mechanism to deliver them is not
specified it's
silent because both the law and the
bylaws are silent on the issue there was
no
violation there was no effort to remove
any planning Commissioners with this
charge of nonfeasance it's designed to
just simply point out that the work was
not being
done regarding the charge of nonfeasance
the initial charge based on attendance
is very serious but it seems to be
considered not a big deal by
Commissioners some residents some board
members attendance most of me most
members will miss meetings at time from
time to time I don't think anybody uh qu
is is in a quandry about that and it's
understandable when a member is absent
they're not participating in the
important decisions that needed to craft
the ordinances and plans that govern
this Township because these votes affect
the law that the township residents must
follow residents deserve the full
attention of each and every commissioner
to be there as much as possible to come
and to come prepared for each
meeting that's exactly what's expected
of this
board might sound very hopefully it
sounds very familiar an example of this
would be commissioner wood uh during the
public comments at a recent board
meeting planning commissioner Bill wood
stood up and commented that he had a
deal with the last board uh that he
didn't have to attend all the meetings
because the nature of his
job we were all here many of you were
here
too well we need to investigate such
deals and close them out because if
we're going to allow these kind of uh
deals to take place we're automatically
handicapping the Planning Commission
from having an effective full Planning
Commission and discussions with regard
to ordinances laws and things of that
nature
instead commissioner wood was elected as
the PC secretary which is very
interesting due to the fact that his
attendance was only 50% based on public
records have held meetings since the uh
in
2024 through
November so how do how are you voted
secr now voting a secretary is not a
problem that's what that's what the
commission wanted but how do you perform
the duties of secretary when you're not
there that much this is a problem
it's a symptom there may be valid
reasons for a commissioner that can a
commissioner cannot attend but if the
attendant drops below some reasonable
amount then it would be long and if it's
longterm like something that's ongoing
uh and so on and so forth like the case
of commissioner wood because his job was
affected uh or health issues or family
issues then the responsibil thing to do
is to resign and allow the appointment
of another commissioner so that we don't
handicap the planning commission
especially during important times like
we just went through with the renewable
energy solar wind battery writing of the
master
plan this is absolutely a critical time
in this
Township was this related to I'm not
finished yet I'm sorry I apologize for
that hold
on so it is in the best interest of the
Planning Commission and it's the best
interest of the township to have ever
body present but that's not you know so
attendance is important it's really
important don't minimize it I'm
explaining the reasons why these should
be removed these uh um these resolutions
for
censure so it's on the agenda for
discussion Chris it's not it's not going
to be discussed if we can remove them
I'm explaining which I have a right to
do so please don't interrupt me
again so other nonfeasance types of
things that have been going on that I've
observed that the Planning Commission
has put us at legal cost and risk they
received an application for special land
use for caregiver operation under the
mmma the Michigan medical marijuana act
initiate a law one of 2008 or mmma uh
the application was denied the PC was
taken up uh the P we're getting off
topic here we're supposed to be
approving or not approving the agenda
thank you and we don't need a 22 minute
spe it is it's very important it isn't
we need to make a vote on approving or
not approving let them approve it we let
so there's lots of other examples of
non- fees why a motion to approve the
agenda I second through motion all in
favor say I I all in
oh sorry for jumping the n
that's all
right well I guess I'll speak because um
well F first we need to go to the
approval of the consent
agenda with the regular board meeting
minutes for December 17 2024 the clerk's
wenson bills January 2nd
2025 so move support
so next we move on to Communications
number one Planning Commission approved
meeting minutes December 10
20124 number two Planning Commission
meeting synopsis December 18
2024 so in Reading um the Planning
Commission approved meeting minutes
number one
let me get this
here it states in the paragraph uh Rich
Ericson nominated Chris Reta as Planning
Commission Vice chairman Bill wood
nominated Kevin Ross as Planning
Commission Vice
chairman Rich Ericson made a motion to
elect Chris Reta as Vice chairman Chris
Reta seconded the motion it was a tie
vote 3
to3 the nomination for vice chairman was
tabled at the direction of supervisor
Greg Kars who was in the
audience so my concern is the supervisor
doesn't have the authority to direct the
Planning Commission yet it states in the
minutes that you directed them to
table their nominations nor should you
be speaking at a Planning Commission
meeting
uh don't know if I directed did I that's
what it states here in the minutes
I think what he did didn't state it what
he stated was in the zoning board when
we had this situation what he did is we
tabled that was the statement so maybe
we need to start taking our minute
meeting unit better well I'm just
reading the board I did not tell them to
do that he he made a suggestion based
off what they do at the Z
exactly and the question is should you
making be making
suggestions in a form of directing the
Planning Commission he didn't
direct comment is he shouldn't be
speaking he didn't direct he said when
we have this you this is what we
do and I believe at that time they said
okay that's what we're going to do well
clearly they took direction from him
that's what the minut
St they're adults they can make a
decision whether they ignore or follow
that the fact that they follow it
doesn't mean that they took Direction
from
him I even think they ask
me i' have to review I'd have
to we have to look at it I but
I
yeah
um so we're not approve
the no it's fine I'm just making a point
that the supervisor doesn't have
authority to direct the Planning
Commission I and well you haven't proved
that that exactly what happened either
again more ACC we need more accurate
minutes or to go look at and review the
video before bringing bringing that kind
of an accusation
right the accusation stems from the
minutes that I'm reading provided by of
course but the minutes are never wrong
we know that the minutes are never
complete they don't have to be they
don't have to be complete has right to
question what was printed in the packet
she has every right to question that
respect
we're we're responding we have a right
to respond make accusations I didn't
make an accusation okay I exactly what's
in here okay come on are we are we going
to
approve the
communications I'll make a motion to
approve Communications one and two in
place on file I support
it all all in favor I I oppose me I'm
opposed am minuts are not accurate okay
correct public
remarks
Scott SC white this is exactly what we
don't need for four
years I just want to bring your
attention is this working think so turn
it on I just want to say I come here a
lot been here most time been here for
years just before all the hoop
here turn it we had meetings is it and
I'm I'm g go back use the mic M I'm
going to go back to the Liberty house
with the Planning
Commission the Planning Commission was
working to try to approve Scott use the
mic so the video audience can hear wait
can I make a comment first the per first
public comment is only I know but this
is pertaining to you're going to punish
somebody if you're going to punish
people the first public comment is for
agenda items only okay it is it is
you're going to censor these people but
you're telling us about saying something
about I don't see Li we got allp just
hold on just a second you're cing people
here right doesn't have to do with the
Liberty house what it does because
you're censoring them for the same thing
the Planning Commission did on the
Liberty house you were told by this
attorney that the offer they made the
Liberty
house was
illegal did I ask for the anybody on the
Planning Commission to
resign did I ask anybody to resign the
Planning Commission M earlier they
offered her a deal to approve that
split if she promised the township she
would not build
and the attorney sit there and told him
he never heard anything about it he
never approved that and it was illegal
so yes this is pertaining to this if
you're going to hold people accountable
you got to go back we can go back 14
years you want to pull up all this stuff
Ben at Lake Urban
Lake I can do it listen you guys the
center is something that happens I know
if you made a mistake fine let's eat it
okay let's move
on okay Y and thanks I could ask those
guys all to resign I'm very upset about
that I know it was the Liberty house
okay but you know my neighbors and I we
want to be safe there and we couldn't
even get a fence put up okay okay but
but I'm just saying but this is what we
want but I'm going to get on here make
it quick okay but these laptops and
phones don't you're going to put the
timer on now we listen to Chris come on
get off of it um the laptops and phones
um you know no no I don't I'm not for
that but uh I'm going to get into some
stuff here there's some stuff that needs
to be taken care of you have to stay on
the agenda though I'm going to right now
we're going to get into it later on so
these people want to know some stuff
we're going to hear some stuff all right
next anybody
else come on
turn is it your place to talk okay Kurt
it's okay just let it go uh Kurt Schultz
Silver Lake Estates y uh I want to speak
in regards to the uh
censure you know um I'm really
embarrassed to even be up here
discussing
this seems to me that I had to listen
for three and a half years to
transparency in
government and uh
preaching that uh we're going to be open
on everything yeah what's the first
thing that happens you violate the open
meetings
act and it only took you three weeks to
do
that you you violated the trust of the
people
here you know I I wouldn't be surprised
if we get a
recall you
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know I I just don't get that you sit and
smile because that's the comment you
made to me all the
time so you know you got to know what
you don't
know that man right over there he's the
guy to talk to when you do stuff and you
don't do it without the approval of the
rest of the
board now it's going to be really ugly
here because they're going to have to
vote on
this and they're going to have to vote
to censure
people why because they
should sit and smile
there you know
um the residents here expected
more what we didn't expect more of is
for you to come in and simply try to
push through stuff without following the
process and the problem is you don't
know the process he does and all he's
your reference point and okay so we
don't do we don't care about lawsuits we
don't care about who sues us I got news
for you your job is a risk manager here
you manage the risk for the
township you take the
responsibility to make sure we don't get
into frivolous
lawsuits that when we do have a law
lawsuit is one that we think we can win
or we know that the what the results are
going to
be and that's your
responsibility but no we're going to
spend time
censuring because people can't follow
the rules that are in
place I'm embarrassed for you you three
especially thank you
go ahead
Zach good evening Zack Tucker Lake Brook
Drive I'll be real brief I just want to
encourage the board to listen to the
Township's attorney instead of speeches
um attorney's a resource should be used
I EO Kur I Echo Kurt's comments in that
regard something else I I want to bring
to the board's very specific attention I
think could very easily get lost in the
noise I I find it pretty incredible that
a politician who ran on a conservative
platform a few weeks into his term is
asking the board to provide him with
business cards and a cell phone and a
laptop um I just want the board to know
I'm on the list of conservative
residents that is definitely opposed to
that so thank
you Janette
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okay you I'm not sitting down okay okay
that's fine um Janette Retta Tyrone
Township resident um you may have
noticed somebody stood up two people
before me older gentleman didn't say his
name that's Kurt Schultz he was on the
uh board
earlier pardon me
and stick the agenda yeah I will but
he's the one who wanted to slap me
across my effing face okay that's the
guy okay so now that we know who all he
is um it's really surprising and
honestly disappointing to see so many
people here tonight for what feels like
a Witch Hunt imagine if even a quarter
of this group regularly attended
meetings that truly shape our community
like the last Planning Commission
meeting that was the meeting that was
held the day after the last board
meeting which was very contentious
meeting but let me tell you something
about that Planning Commission meeting
it was drastically different from every
Planning Commission meeting I've
attended in nearly four years and I sent
John Ward a message I didn't want a
message back I just said great you did a
great job it was it was a really good
meeting and unfortunately there were
only five residents there and we get
this when it's a Witch Hunt but we don't
get people to show up for the things
that matter and yes I've attended every
nearly every board and Planning
Commission meeting and I have a better
attendance than most of the planning
Commissioners and honestly I believe I
have a better grasp on the issues from
some of them as compared to some of them
because attendance matters because you
can't learn about the issues if you
don't attend the meetings in the past
most of the planning Commissioners came
unprepared and rarely participated in
meaningful discussions all you need to
do is look at the the videos but the
last meeting and I'm giving praise here
after receiving from the letter from the
supervisor KS it was a complete
different story every commissioner was
present one was about an hour late but
he was there and what really stood out
was the level of preparation they asked
thoughtful questions they referenced the
packet they participated in real
discussions it was not the kind of
meeting that it was the kind of meeting
that should be the
norm and so what
changed I'm almost done y they realize
that they are being watched and this has
to be with it has to do with the centry
letter cuz you're
censoring I mean that they realized they
might actually be held accountable for
their lack of participation that was
what was different the very letter that
has been so overblown in this room
tonight overblown online as a former
supervisor's wife has been spewing her
propaganda online and let me be clear
gre's letter wasn't a public
condemnation it wasn't accusatory it was
an attempt to encourage the Planning
Commission to do the job they were
appointed to do and guess what it worked
now the fact that the Planning
Commission appears to have taken a more
serious attitude in doing their job
doesn't absolve them from the past all
right thanks thanks Jun Greg when you
said that this was the main thing that
you were going to do so get rid of we
are going to get rid of it but you are
going to get rid of it yeah EV I can't
finish my thought this is the most
important night Greg and you're going to
listen to these ladies on both sides of
you that are telling you to shut me up
it's okay
it's not okay I'm I'm ready to talk
myself not I'm ready to move on to the
new business thank
you not okay it is it's okay anybody
else yeah
Kevin keep this guy on
timer
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yeah hold on
Kevin all right
okay sorry thank you Chris for your
filibuster earlier I really appreciate
that thank
you guys last time I was here and I
graced the room the air was thick with
smoke and even the Watchers looked for
fire but couldn't find it so I went
ahead and lit it I called for the
resignations of Chris Reta Dean hos Greg
KS spoiler alert since then their
greatest hits have only gotten longer
this Township deserves transparency the
thing that you guys ran on and you lied
about I hope the V voters are
watching let's start with the unapproved
and illegal board action orchestrated by
Chris Dean and Greg while Greg was busy
soaking up the floorida sunshine
coordination across state lines a
sidestep proper procedure is a bold move
guys meanwhile back at the ranch last
board meeting adjourning Dean took it
upon himself to scream in the face of
truste s Sarah dolman Jersey you know
one of four adults on the board here
trying to keep things lawful Dean
yelling at somebody who is who for doing
their job isn't just tacky but it's
really unprofessional when you try to
get your wife into it as well but then
again you've never let professionalism
get in your way have you and I'm
referring to your stunt with that fake
letter to try to charge us at the PC and
Greg welcome back for your second out
ofate Adventure since taking office
first Florida and now California and by
the way hope the weather was worth it
now let's in the words of John Ward
shush now let's talk about your newfound
wish list shiny new laptops emails
phones and even business cards how
precious who are you trying to impress
here we know this isn't about efficiency
it's about keeping your little side
chats safely tucked away from foyer
requests news flash Dirty Laundry always
finds a way to the clothesline oh and I
hear there's a cent on the docket today
let's let me be clear a symbolic
reprimand is insufficient the township
deserves leaders who prioritize ethical
governance over personal agendas this
Township deserves leaders who care about
ethics not people who treat
accountability like an optional upgrade
how many more financial penalties and
reputational hits do we need before you
take responsibility so let me say it
louder for the people in the back Chris
Dean Greg your ego is not your Amigo
it's time to resign step aside and let
Leaders with a shred of Integrity do the
job the clock is ticking and the
township can't afford your I anymore if
you truly care about this community
you'll stop playing government dress up
and make room for people who actually
know what they're
doing I don't
know are we all
done all right
uh do we have any unfinished
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business
see nope okay and we'll move on to uh
new
business and the discussion of uh my
centure um
I guess I talk I think we should ask um
our attorney chuck if he can underline
um the laws that were
violated when those letters went
out laws were
violated I don't have no
fact could you speak in the microphone
please thank you I don't have enough
facts to tell
you should
be there I can hear you so you got it
can you hear me now y yes I don't know
enough facts to tell you whether there's
been any laws
violated um a violation of the open
meetings act would require um at least
four
members I have no idea whether that
happened and
frankly um if there were violations out
there you wouldn't want me to be telling
you at this board meeting of
that may I comment on the op meeting act
violation
supposedly um
all four
trustees and myself knew or were
disappointed in the Planning Commission
we knew this well before we were elected
and yes the five of us sat down talked
about it and were elected for one of
those reasons that was one of the
platforms that all five of us ran on
correct after we were
elected after we were elected not sworn
in after we were elected we did not
violate the opens meeting act at
all we did not violate
it the only
two that knew about the letter
the
letter was Dean and Chris I apologize
for getting you guys involved in this
but I have I have a question for you
Char
um as as Chris pointed out the law is
very silent on how the letter can be
supplied to the the board members
correct yes so they would look for a
precedent as to what what what would do
that right when you say they would look
to a for if this was go to court of law
he would look for some precedence Sy a
way it should where he could come up
with an idea of how it might be done if
if there were a hypothetical lawsuit and
there is no statutory guidance and
there's no case law guidance then a
judge would have to make that decision
if there is case law guidance generally
speaking the trial courts follow the
case law guidance because it's case law
established by a higher court court
appeal Supreme Court so so I'm going to
ask you this based on the fact that in
our
bylaws when we appoint a Planning
Commission person the process is Mr con
does not have supervisor does not have
to go out to the the public he doesn't
have to put out a notice of of opening
he has the ability to bring a person in
front of this board for appointment to
the Planning Commission is that correct
the supervisor gets to recommend that is
correct okay under that same thing
wouldn't wouldn't it be reasonable to
think that he had that same ability to
bring somebody up for
review I don't have right to review it's
apples and oranges why because it is
it's bringing somebody in front of the
board that's all it is on a charge which
is different and does he also have the
right to State very clearly that the
Township board made a decision does not
state that anyway yes it does show me
the letter was in the
copy of the letter right here thank you
John the language very explicitly says
the
township I to where the law is that says
Mr KS our supervisor has to have board
approval to send a letter to claim that
the board made a decision that they
never made he didn't say he majority the
board look at this letter this letter
States Kevin Ross own Planning
Commission your attendance record during
the 2024 calendar year at Planning
Commission meetings is less than 80% of
held meetings as a result of this the
Township Board is charging you with
nonfeasance the Township Board will hold
the public hearing line item on the
agenda of the December 17 2024 at 700
p.m. meeting and your attendance is
requireed requested so you can explain
your position thank you Greg cens Tyrone
Township supervisor so you're going to
you're going to hold him on uh centure
because of a a misquote when should have
been instead of just the
one okay it's okay let me let me let me
just tell you how we got here okay me
just tell you how we
got early December
I reached
out to each of the planning
Commissioners via VIA an
email to initiate a conversation on
their commitment to the planning board
and stress the importance of their
attendance and engagement to the serious
task in front of this
Township let me repeat that
I reached out to each of the planning
Commissioners via an email to initiate a
conversation on their commitment to the
planning board and stress the importance
of their attendance and engagement to
the serious task in front of this
Township I
had good conversations with three of
them
one was uncooperative and one just
didn't
respond
so in an effort to get this
conversation because time is running out
on these important tasks that need to be
done so I wrote this
letter CU I I didn't see any other way
to make it happen
quickly that's
not after I delivered the letter to each
of the
members I realized that uh it wasn't the
best way to get my goal
accomplished so I asked them to destroy
the letter and become n and make it null
and
void and make it null and void
my intention was not
intimidation but merely to hold the
board members accountable to the
township
residence this last item on
transparency
well I think we'll let the 6,500 voters
that voted for me they can decide
whether I'm trans transparent or not not
a few of you and not this
sensor in summary in
summary the main reason I ran for this
position was to make the boards more
accountable to you
residents to have these boards draw upon
the knowledge and experience of you the
residents I think it's
clear even though my
letter blew up in my face
um well I I hope I hope the Planning
Commission stays in the direction it's
headed and
John great job trying to get the
residents involved keep it
up uh
I think you're going to have an easier
time than me get getting this board
working but uh I'm going to keep trying
with this board I'm not going to be
discouraged
um I guess
uh you board members you you got to vote
however you think you should
but uh if you vote for this you're
wrong you're wrong you're wrong you're
wrong wrong wrong because you don't know
me you don't really know who I
am once again Mr KS I'll point out in
this letter you wrote as a result of
this the Township Board is charging you
with
nonfeasance I had no idea you were
creating this letter I had no idea that
you were meeting with other board
members so if I if I met with everyone
that would be a violation that would be
the appropriate way to discuss charate
actions to take would be to bring it to
the board table and have that
conversation and by the way that's the
difference between the work and the
trustees on this board that were
involved in the centure it was brought
to the board table for discussion and
action it was not done through email
with three people and then act it
upon okay so I I'd also I'd like to go
back here I'd like to speak and go back
here back to August 26 it was a Monday
11:14 a.m. you Mr K sent myself and
every board member here a text message
and it states I would like to get with
all of you for an hour this week please
let me know if Wednesday or Thursday
works
I am thinking between 5:00 p.m. and 700
p.m. 1 hour
maximum one response I can meet
Wednesday your response I think kerm is
still good for Wednesday that's twoo
another response not available this
week and then Mr K what's the date
Monday August 26 at 11:14 a.m. okay I
have contacted you I made a phone call
to you and I referenced the 20 23 case
in Ottawa County where some of the
County Board of Commissioners violated
the spirit of the open meetings act by
meeting and deliberating outside of a
public meeting prior to taking their
oath I informed you of the case I
suggested you Google August August 28th
August 26th Monday I wasn't even elected
no you weren't
listen Pam pointed out to me that this
is probably not a good idea for us to
meet in the spirit of transparency we
will not get together until after
November
20th and then Mr H says transparency to
what we aren't officially elected yet to
anything Herman says wow okay then Mr H
says okay Herm is so we are meeting with
our board representative
LOL so my point in bringing this up is I
had informed Med you prior to you being
elected and every one of you was aware
about the open meetings act and that
there are laws to follow yet according
to this letter and according to your own
acknowledgement to me you admitted to me
that you Chris and Dean discussed this
letter so then you presented this letter
to the Planning Commission as though the
board had voted on this and discussed it
you took away our voice and our vote and
you three made decisions without the
remainder of the board and we're
supposed to function as a board as a
team and communicate and have
conversations and work together we can't
do that if you're making meetings and
phone calls amongst each other to make
decisions might want to read that case a
little further because what it says is
if you meet with the purpose of coming
up with a decision and you decided you
deliberated and made a decision
he did I sign that letter did Chris sign
that letter he came to us and asked our
thoughts on it we gave him our
thoughts based on your thoughts Mr K
decided and created a letter and sent it
out there was deliberation and a
decision was made and the letter was
sent was hand delivered that's my
point in addition to that you said that
the Township Board would hold a public
hearing I did not post any public
hearing for Planning Commission members
to come to and that but this is a letter
you gave them you told them there was a
public hearing on December 17th you
can't deny it I know I made it and all
in void so what I'm saying
is come on GRE digging a hole buddy okay
my whole point in being is that there
are laws to follow there are processes
and we have have to follow laws and
processes it if we can't do that we
can't improve our Township we have to
work together we have to be a team and
we have to follow the laws and open
meetings act and make decisions together
and discuss that up here at the board
table that's the only way we can move
forward so with that with that being
said um I would like to make a mo motion
of censor of supervisor Greg
CS
support I had a statement to read first
can I share my statement sure
before
um I guess I first would like to recap
um my own perspective and the events
that took place because I think each of
us has a little different point of view
so at our last board meeting on December
17th it was brought to the township
board's attention that a letter was
issued on the 10th of December to the
Planning Commission stating that
Township Board was charging them the
planning Commissioners with non-vent for
attending less than 80% of meetings and
invited them to come to a public hearing
scheduled at the next board meeting and
forgive the redundancy I just have to
not miss anything that I wanted to say
the Township Board is a po has never
held a board meeting in which this
letter or charges of any kind toward
planning Commissioners were discussed or
voted upon four of the seven board
members had no knowledge that any such
letter was conceived or drafted until
the evening it was
delivered there is nothing in the
Planning Commission bylaws that says
anything about expectations of 80%
attendance there was no public hearing
scheduled for December 17th and there
was never a request for one to be
scheduled under December 10th the above
mentioned letter was delivered in person
by supervisor KS to the planning
Commissioners at the conclusion of the
regular Planning Commission meeting
trusty H was also present and trusty
Retta was present as the new ex officio
appointee in the days that followed
supervisor KS called the clerk and said
he had a quorum I had a majority of the
board who supported this action this
statement was false because there never
was a publicly held board meeting in
which a quorum was been present to
discuss this subject or plan of action
he then asked planning the Planning
Commission to throw the letter away and
move
on at the December 17th board meeting
several planning Commissioners spoke
during public comment as well as
concerned
residents concerns were raised that some
board members were operating in secret
misrepresenting the board conducting
Township business and making decisions
on behalf of the board without their
knowing which is an abuse of the author
of the Township
Board
um what I want to say is
this during my campaign I shared and
heard concerns about the Planning
Commission relative to cancled meetings
attendance and working toward the goal
of being more proactive in addressing
issues related to Planning and Zoning as
opposed to being reactive that is true
engaging in dialogue about those
concerns does not give anyone the
authority to take actions on my behalf
without my knowledge without coming
forth in a public meeting without
deliberation with all board members
present or without a publicly held board
vote implicating the board as a whole is
being involved in the conception
Drafting and delivery of this letter
received by the Planning Commission is
entirely false and egregious those
involved did so intentionally without
the knowledge of the board as a
whole the Township Board is required by
by law to operate as a public entity
decisions must be made in a in public at
scheduled meetings not just voting but
also thinking deliberating an especially
Township business that is acted upon
intentionally acting on behalf of the
board and intentionally misrepresenting
the board outside these parameters is a
serious breach of the Oma a serious
breach of your board colleagues trust
and a serious breach of the community's
trust and that is why we're discussing
this matter it is not just no big deal
accountability matters ethical Behavior
matters following the law matters the
impact the situation has had on the
township staff fellow board members and
the Planning Commission have been severe
instead of building working
relationships finding common goals and
making a plan together a path has been
chosen that is utterly destructive and
divisive if personal agendas cannot be
replaced with genuine collaboration
healthy communication and measured
patience to learn to work within normed
processes and laws we will accomplish
absolutely nothing as a
board it will be to the detriment and
sadly at Great cost to the residents a
Township Board should always operate
with a moral compass to protect the best
interest of the township we serve we are
sworn by oath to follow the law what is
being discussed here tonight is not what
the people of this Township voted for No
One mandated recklessness with their
ballots the board should consider that
as a legislative body we have only two
real actions that can be taken when
matters of misconduct arise within our
board one is to issue issue a public
censor to denounce on the record actions
that have taken
place the other is removal from any
committees or other Township bodies for
which a board member may be a
participant furthermore each of us has a
fiduciary
responsibility to protect the Township's
well being ignoring behavior that
threatens the Township's fiduciary
Health would not be prudent the
situation before us is not a personal
matter but it is one that warrants a
serious response from the board as a
whole given we were all directly
implicated in these matters we must
consider any and all board actions to
send a message that is abundantly clear
this Behavior cannot and will not be
tolerated thank you i' like to add a
comment
please
so with regard to the uh the items in
each of the centure
resolutions they
don't
specifically uh tie to things like for
example there's a claim that there's a
violation of Ethics standards and
ethics but where's the documentation
around standard ethics that we can learn
what that charge is for they state that
it's a possible violation of the open
meetings act well we don't work in
possibilities here we work in did you
violate the open meetings act or did you
not violate the open meetings act did
you violate the law or did you not
violate the law and so I'd like to
understand before voting and uh on these
particular
issues what ethics and standard
guidelines you're working from I
couldn't find anything out there in the
public uh website from the plan uh from
the Tyrone Township website that
described ethics and standards for the
township to be able to compare against
so that we can understand and I couldn't
find anything in the open meetings act
that showed that we violated the open
meetings act uh and even uh our attorney
of there said that he would need to
research it forward so if we're on such
a hot path to get uh something done and
get a centure applied wouldn't it be
prudent to actually have the
facts of these really important things
before making these
decisions that's why I'm calling that's
why I called for these to just be uh
removed from the
agenda I mean it's it's you you can't
solve a problem with creating another
problem you can't be vague we have to
follow the law as you pointed out
correctly follow the law so tell us
letter shows it all which part of the
law was not followed the letter said it
all do so that this is why this is why I
have
concerns
deliberating behind closed
doors violation without whether there's
a quorum or not in acting upon on those
deliberations without it being in a
public setting and the whole board
present is a violation of the
Oma okay whether there's a quorum or not
I would like delivery an act to come I
would like the attorney second
second I don't think we need to have a
written policy to
know that
misrepresenting each of us that were not
part of this in writing on Township
letterhead and making it an official
Township document claiming that we all
knew about this is
misrepresentation there how do we even
question whether or not that's ethical
that's just given that's
it my comment wasn't about the ethical
nature my comment you just asked for
ethical standard can I can I clarify
please my comment was to understand
where the standards and ethics
guidelines are to which you're making
these charts and you're saying there
isn't any and so that's fine I get your
I get your question I'm not saying
there's no ethical questions I'm simply
saying where's the documentation that
you're charging in these censure uh
resolutions that's what I'm
asking I haven't said anything all night
but on January 3rd I sat right here and
somebody asked Chuck about Planning
Commission he specifically said that the
Planning Commission acts separate from
the board and then 5 days later a letter
was written I was pretty clear on that
that we act separate the Planning
Commission acts separate from the board
and we have no dictation of what they do
am I right CH
yes so I don't know why after you stated
that that they went ahead and gave them
a letter after you said we have no
Authority over the Planning Commission
am I correct on that
yes so I didn't know that that's why I
asked
you so then the letter was written five
or six days after you recommended and
said that we do not dictate what they
do you said about four things I
apologize but oh I he said one thing
Chris he said that we do not clearly do
not
have any jurisdiction or any guidance
they act separately from us separately
he said that right
there he also and then five days later a
a letter was written this letter this
letter right here that's what confuses
me when our attorney who Zach said we
should talk to and I asked him that
we've heard it right here and he stated
it and everybody heard it we were all
here did you hear that when he said
that we act they act separate the
Planning Commission did you hear
that yes or
no okay so it's January 3rd you sat
right here Dean AR with there's two
things that you you asked is whether the
board has control over the Planning
Commission and the answer is is the
board this board has control over all
the things in the township the question
that came up to with respond to him
because I was the one proposing it was
can the board provide direction to the
Planning Commission of things to
cover and the attorney said yes they can
provide
direction we can't tell them how to
decide on things we can't tell them what
to decide on things we can't tell them
what discussions uh and how the
discussion should go we don't control
them there are separate entity
absolutely but don't confuse being
allowing being allowed by law to provide
guidance we approve uh appointees and
the law clearly states as I read that we
would approve removing board members
that doesn't constitute no
control this is this is a Mis this is a
misunderstanding there is it is a
mising do we control the Planning
Commission
no not any way shape or
form we vote so we don't vote on
appointees we don't vote to appoint
people we but that doesn't mean we
control them that's right that's where
you three have to get out of your bra
control we control the Planning
Commission you just said it that's right
we do not control the Planning
Commission but there are things we do
that provide Direction and other things
I'm trying to clarify because of
her it's Direction not control
absolutely let's move on so going back
to this letter it the bottom line is it
was a blatant violation of public trust
and the Ten of government
transparency yes in our opinion you do
not write a letter that says the time Ro
Township
Board did this we did not do that
uh let's just so let's just vote please
we had we have this resolution at the
table I made a motion for that
resolution um censor of supervisor Greg
KS Herman Ferguson second
it we'll do a roll call
vote Dean hos n Chris Retta Nate Sarah
dolman Jersey yes Jennifer Eden yes
Greg carts no Herman Ferguson yes Pam
offer
yes resolution 2501 has
passed thank you next we'll move on to
the discussion of censor of trustee Dean
H do we as a board need to have further
discussion or are we ready
for a
motion any want to me for supporting my
supervisor I'll D I'd like to know the
extent of the conversation that went on
in the email between the three of you
I've not seen that thread because I
wasn't part of it I don't
know um if there was feedback given if
there was suggestions of language using
the Township Board language
anguage can the three of you Enlighten
us please as
to what specifically your involvement
was
transparency simar to the Stu you would
tell me
Sarah it's okay hey hey hey hey hey hey
he can you repeat your question please
yeah I would like you and Dean and Greg
to share with the rest of
us what your involvement was in the
drafting of that letter Greg has said
there was email correspondence on
December 8th and 9th while he was in
Florida he sent you a letter you offered
feedback and I'm wondering did you offer
suggestions of language how was it that
you were
involved yeah absolutely
y so all three of you were aware that it
seated that's speak for
myself
sure why wouldn't we be involved yeah I
mean it was absolutely and you were
comfortable using language that stated
the Township
Board was charging the planning
Commissioners with nonfeasance knowing
well that the Township Board was not
part of that
decision that's the L language that
really hits hard
Chris if a board makes a decision on
something I am all for it I may not
agree with it but if we make a decision
to do something but this is backhanded
as it
gets um the fact that I had to have two
phone calls um late at night after that
meeting wondering what the heck was up
with this letter that I knew nothing
about I'm like well I'm sorry but you're
going to have to bring it to the office
in the morning because I don't know what
you're talking about had no knowledge
well it says tyone Township Board is
charging us with nonis
uh that UT utterly made every one of us
look stupid because four of us didn't
even know about
it and I don't appreciate it and I think
we've had those convers
ations I know it was an error that was
made poor
judgment stupidity perhaps
um hopefully we can get past all this
and move forward as a board and learn
from our mistakes and start doing some
business
so make a
motion I guess I also would like to know
from the three of you how you feel at
this point in time do you feel that you
truly have done nothing wrong and
content
with you're content with the choices
you've
made and you feel that that
has um somehow improved things for the
township and for the Planning
Commission as mentioned in my
introduction I think there's always room
for
improvement right that's what I said
there's always room for improvement I I
can't speak there there's always room
for improvement so that's what I
say do we need to take action when
action and hold people accountable in
this Township
absolutely this Township has not done a
very good job of watching over fiary
responsibilities
spending the taxpayer money and all of
these things the business of the
township we have a lot of serious issues
ahead of us as well can we improve
absolutely I absolutely admit that we
can improve and that's what I look
forward
to
okay me too yeah
so what do you want to
do we are you Sor gr are we going to
stop with just
one no then make a
motion I make a
motion it's either one or I mean zero or
all of is there a second
support okay we'll do a roll call vote
Herman Ferguson yes Jennifer Eden yes
Greg CS no Chris Retta no Sarah dolman
Jersey yes Dean hos no Pam offer yes Pam
does he have to state with the motion is
for yes a resolution
2501 um of censor of trustee Dean
H okay moving forward to discussion of
censor of trustee Chris
Reta do have any questions or further
discussion no I make a
motion I I have concerns because Chris
you in particular are
the newly appointed EX officio on the
Planning Commission which is the body
that you were appointed to
serve and I I just
um I feel like the actions that you've
taken toward them have really
jeopardized that working
relationship so I'm bringing that up for
discussion I don't know if anyone else
has strong feelings about that I have
concerns as well if you're involved in
this type of letter how can you
um work with the Planning Commission
without being intimidating towards the
Planning Commission um I don't feel that
that would be a good working
relationship and it would not benefit
our Township um with that type of I
disagree I Chris has a
incredible knowledge on that he has
worked very hard uh it would be a severe
mistake to pull him off as our our
representative on that Planning
Commission a bad mistake and I I I we
need to be more concerned with this
board getting working together than that
board that board is on its way to be in
fine and I would not mess with it this
board we got some we got some repairs to
do here so I hope you're going to be
involved in those repairs
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Chuck in this in this
situation please quiet everyone in this
situation so we have appointed as a
board uh Mr Reta as ex official to the
Planning Commission can we SED that as a
board according to the Roberts Rules of
Order the appointment was made was it
two meetings ago you can you speak in
the microphone according to Robert's
Rules of Order which I think the
township has
adopted um the only way to go about that
would be to at the same meeting that he
was appointed address it then or at the
immediately following meeting and so
according to the Roberts Rules of Order
that mechanism is unavailable at this
point okay what options do we have how
can we make that a good working
relationship are you asking me what
options you have to change the positions
on the first to remove him from that
position the board could charge him with
malfeasance nonfeasance
misfeasance if the board charges them
with that you would have a scheduled
public hearing they could answer the
charges and after that public hearing
the Township board can vote
okay is that a discussion that we should
have and move forward with that
yes I'd like to know what the commission
thinks
oh I don't know that we can are the
Planning Commission members here are all
of them here
well we should probably ask before we do
that if it's legal to ask them that is
it legal to ask them that their opinion
their opinion on or do we do that what I
would tell you first of all um you can
discuss this issue
tonight I would tell you that within the
time frame that we have in our
bylaws put it on your
agenda to decide whether to charge then
at the date of the public hearing
anybody including the PC members would
have the opportunity to talk and
obviously at the call of the public uh
during a regular meeting they can voice
their opinions there
too
okay as a board do we want that on our
next agenda
yes
stion doesn't have to be a motion the
agenda it no it doesn't have have to be
a motion to be put on the agenda
just in a conversation are you on board
with that Sarah I'm on board with a
conversation yeah
GRE
sure Jennifer y Dean I'm on board with a
conversation sure yes could you clarify
again what what we're supposed to be on
board with or
not having a conversation um on our next
board meeting having it on the agenda to
discuss um
a public hearing to remove you as ex
officio to the Planning Commission
sure for male Fe
since okay well then we'll put it on our
next
agenda okay so we're on the resolution
of censor of trustee Chris Retta is
there a motion I make a motion
okay for
2501 of censor of trustee Chris Retta is
there a
second
support okay we'll do a roll call vote
Greg CS no Sarah dolman Jersey yes Chris
Retta no Herman Ferguson yes Jennifer
Eden yes Dean hos no Pam mler
yes can you
Sarah
Sarah okay moving on to new business
number four request of Trustees for
Township email addresses laptops phones
and business
cards who made the
request the
Mr Reta requested a laptop cell
pH did you want to leave that discussion
Greg um sure sure I I
uh talked
to with an
attorney um actually
Laura Foster Swift and um regarding this
rals well I talked to her Municipal
conflict of interest um to and she I I
just asked her about
uh What uh other townships do and um she
told me that uh email uh addresses were
were pretty
typical
um um laptops no um phones mobile phones
yes and she couldn't really answer the
the business
card I I I really just the uh recall her
saying that the township email addresses
were
definitely
um
uh what other
townships recommend or do
can I ask our Municipal attorney that's
sitting here to my left his thoughts
about that and whether or
not
sure I I've already had a conversation
with a couple of the trustees
not I I've had a discussion with a
couple of Trustees where I did recommend
that the board members have Township
email addresses and that all business
that is all Communications I should say
say relating to the township go through
those emails as opposed to
privates can you explain why because the
documents that you are creating through
those emails are public
records if there were ever a lawsuit by
anybody claiming that the uh records
retention act has been
violated or there has been a lack of a
proper response to the free of
Information Act
request and if that lawsuit is filed
then if personal devices with personal
emails are used they are subject to
subpoena which means all of your phones
could be examined and everything on it
potentially could be made
public furthermore by using a Township
email address it is much easier here to
be able to gather Township records and
keep them as
required so I recommend I recommended
within the last month that the township
have email addresses assigned for the
trustees
sense what is to prevent a board member
from having a Township email address to
conduct Township
business um but
then trusting those individuals to not
be conducting their Township business
with their personal email outside of
those parameters unfortunately there
there's no guarantee there isn't um you
know and so if if people are to use
private
emails um if they're ever caught because
of a
lawsuit you know that's potential
liability to the Township and them
individually um you know
I I have reviewed parts of the law
recently and not only could the township
be liable and be hit with a civil
penalty which could include the payment
of a lawyer's attorney fees who
represented a member of the public suing
the
township but a a Township Board member
who
falsifies that they have provided public
records in response to a Freedom of
Information Act
request they could be charged
criminally and so while there's no
guarantees there's plenty of
incentive to keep your personal business
separate from that of the public
business
so
no so you vot
individually each one computer phone
email business cards or just know on
everything I just had one comment I
don't mind the email addresses I get
that
um the the trustees are not supposed to
be conducting business outside of this
boardroom so I'm not sure why you would
need a lap time laptop phones or
business cards because who are you
handing them
to um because we're conducting our
business
here that's just my thoughts but I don't
have a problem with the email addresses
I don't either I don't need have it
doesn't cost anything well it does it
does it does it it'll be uh about 12
bucks a month per email address and the
and the IT people have to set it up and
all
that yeah
not a big expense for making it easier
for right
right Township record I
guess so what we do great on each one so
we're going to go ahead with the email
what about the computer phone business
cards are these separate things yeah I
think you can there's no reason you
can't vote on them individually okay
we'll start with the emails I make a
motion we accept the emails
support all in favor I I I
oppose all right um what about the
laptops no I don't support that expense
I don't think it's
necessary let's
vote all in favor of the but we don't
have to make a a vote on it if no one's
making a motion on it oh yeah motion for
laptop no you want to make a motion
okay laptops are off did you want to
make a motion oh I'm okay if you guys
it's clear you guys aren't laptops off
okay uh
phones I got a motion for phones a
motion for a phone I got a
second all right uh phones are off and
then uh do I got a motion for business
cards a motion for business
cards it was my request yeah of course
uh no second okay business cards are off
to
so Township eail addresses for uh the
trustees
so they'll be supplied to all four
trustees yes
okay all right on to uh number five the
the uh Peg funding
yes
join well
um does everybody understand what Peg
funding is all
about I I have some questions about it
okay and if if if if nobody Minds I
reviewed the documentation and I've
looked at the peg funding before so I
kind of got and understand that we give
the school systems and potentially parks
and other people but we don't have
anything going to those but is this a
mandate use of taxes by state law or by
county law good good question this is
where Jennifer can help you because this
really isn't our money it's not our
money no no I understand explain the
whole process
sorry um you know what's great is she's
on that the chair of the board chair of
the board of the fact which is Fenton
area cable television custum so what
happens is the state mandated the cable
companies to charge a fee and then they
give that back to us so we get a check
um from spectrum and from AT&T um but
those funds can only be used for
educational purposes on equipment so the
Fenton area or the fact group Fenton
area cable television cardium they
started in Fenton um is includes Lyon
Schools um Heartland we brought in
Heartland schools um lynon Fenton and
Lake Fenton um schools
so all of them combined um we each get
monies and it shows you on let's
see so you can tell so last year on the
top of that list annual Peg fee receipts
yep um the four of us received
238,000 Tyrone Township you see we um
gain 42,1 163 based on that as a
percentage of what we give out you know
fent in Township you'll see receed more
so they pay out a more bigger percentage
of what's given or offered so those
monies can only go to the schools and as
you can see you can see the applications
um we have a streamline we have
inventories each school has an inventory
um if someone let's say Heartland isn't
using two cameras and Fenton can use
them then we remove them from this
inventory we transfer them within good
so if they're asking for them and and U
Michael Fox is our Peg coordinat I
saw website that you guys have
where wasn't using they can school has
the
inventory uh each other's inventories
and Michael has everybody's
two c in you see there's two and they
can even rent them or not rent them but
check them out so a student checks these
out so they're used for their video
audio um classes their computer classes
um so
it's it it's really streamlined like
their inventory everything has to have a
label on it when it comes in the new it
gets a barcode so wherever it is the
school knows where it's at if one comes
up missing then they have to replace it
if a kid if I checked it out and I lost
it guess what I'm paying for it right so
it's um and then they get to so they get
to P the request it's very streamlined
if they don't need it if might thinks
they don't need it couple of the schools
act asked for acting costumes and we
said no that wasn't happening so those
were removed um um well to them they're
important right but to me they're not
educational equipment you know we don't
need a costume we don't need fruit in a
bowl that was one of the things asked
for um so they are they are streamlined
but it isn't our monies it is um for
only that group it's one of those funds
that is um dictated of what you can
spend those monies on so this year um
the
schools F Fenton area public schools
Lake Fenton Lyon Heartland Southern
Lakes parks and Rex and and then the fat
coordinator if he needs something um
only the three of them four of them
excuse me have asked for something and
our amount is what I'm asking for asking
the board to
um pass is the 35,000 556 you may have
noticed that Harland is only solely
under Tyrone Township and that is
because we invited them into this group
and we take Initiative for them because
we are the only ones that we collect
their tax money for we get that Revenue
we get the cable for that so we do a
21% we pay theirs and then we get a
lower amount on everybody else's to make
up for it and so this as you mentioned
the monies for this 35,000 are
reimbursed To Us by the it's not
reimbursed it's already in a fund it's
in a fund yes so we have currently in
the fund is
$425,000 okay so we're not we're not
charging our residence in that sense uh
this
$35,000 and then no it comes solely from
the cable TVs it's a fee that the state
mandated them um
to charge every consumer that has it
residents yeah res pay for it they give
it to their cable company and then the
cable company gives it back to
us right all right so it's a it's it's
not the direc right and right and am I
clear in my understanding we actually
have more money in our
fund we have to give up right so it's
it's an ongoing fund that grow some
years they ask for more some years um
they ask for Less I mean it's a is one
time ask I mean once a year we do that
once a year yes once a year unless they
have something that happens um unless
say their building gets hit by power and
they lose like Chang as yeah right then
they make but typically it's done once a
year at this time um and then they have
they order the equipment we all approve
them and then they order the equipment
by the end of the school year and get it
submitted so next year it's all up and
running by August when they start school
okay sounds good did I answer
everybody's question yeah yeah thank you
I was also looking at a little bit
introspectively about reporting and
stuff to see if any of the people taking
these classes actually had the impact of
what they were saying you know like to
impact Community television or right
actually a couple of them are working at
the news station well that's that was
what my question was is it see the
results of the actually the board
request to go and look at bu at our next
fact meeting if you guys would want to
join um You Can Be Our Guest and go in
there and their studios are phenomenal
Lake Fenton and Heartland even well
Fenton too um they're very nice and to
see the kids sitting down and what they
can they streamline most of them are
doing um little segments before school
starts um they go you know ask advice of
teachers or um ask the kids you know
take a poll or whatever but um they're
really engaged and to see them sitting
down we got to view some of the classes
to see them sitting down and in using
the equipment that we're able to offer
them to teach them and train them and
their video in it it's great it's great
to see I I'd like to see kids excited
sure about those kind of fact that's
great thank you I don't have any other
questions all right I'm looking for a
motion to approve the
35556 for Peg funding I make a motion
second all in favor I I
all
right miscellaneous
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business all right
and uh Mr supervisor um we should have
on our next
agenda the issue of the appeal to the
Circuit Court from the township decision
to deny a zoning very and I think it's
uh
Anderson as I recall okay y um there has
been an offer made by the other side to
settle another off pardon no it's the
same one that I advised existed okay and
and uh I would recommend that we go in
close session to discuss strategy on
that
case we do have another appeal that's
pending we don't have any offers from
the other side we don't even have an
oral argument date as I
recall uh for the disposition of that
case so that does not need to be done at
this
point
um so I you know request at the next
board meeting we discuss that appeal
that one appeal I think it's
Anderson the yeah on the zoning issue
the zba thing yeah okay yeah I'm
I'm okay all right well you now talk
about that and then we'll get on the get
it on the agenda
yep all
right any other miscellaneous business
then we'll do public remarks go ahead
Scott all right okay Grant was good you
guys actually saw smiled and had a
conversation and work together it was
great all right um I he I talked to a
lot of people since all this has went
down and I was one one of the ones most
disappointed in the bunch because I
fought hard for years to get things done
in this
Township
um I've heard lawsuits and the only one
you're going to sue I talked to Kevin
the only one you're going to sue is the
people people didn't do this Greg took
responsibility he stood up there and
told us he put the letter
up so we got he made a confession today
okay and Jennifer says hey we got to all
work together so in the future let's
work together okay a centur was only
they had to separate themselves from it
that's legal I mean I can understand
what a centur is so I mean it's not it's
a slap on the hand I mean but the
lawsuit for these guys I mean like I
brought up earlier the Planning
Commission made a
mistake and the lawyer corrected told
the board about it and said they made a
mistake they never said offered that to
Susan AB so we're going to make mistakes
so let's take care of it but the second
thing is who's going to take Chris's
place that's all I want to
know one you guys before you make this
discussion find out who wants to do the
job okay well whatever I don't care I'm
not stop stop we're not I'm not taking
sides I'm one in the middle that's hold
on I'm let me talk okay she likes to we
all speak out listen it's temperamental
right now it's a lot lot of political
crap going on I want to stay in the
middle
okay I am um very
disappointed in stuff that I learned
during the election process and I came
in and talk to a few
people I want to I hope we can put the
other stuff behind the punishments been
handed down and if the planing
commission wants to Sue this Township
then I think people are going to be a
little bit upset because you're suing us
you want to take money out of my hand
keep paying the lawyer he's loving
it and I'm not blaming
anyways
um let me get the mic during the
election Greg we talked to you you told
us you wanted to run and you told us you
were going to sit down and talk to Mike
and informed him you were running I did
and you wanted to be a man about it all
right you didn't want to do it behind
his back all right now I don't know if
this is true but I've asked you a couple
times and I think this because it's
election Integrity were you you told me
I said did were you offered a deputy job
and you told us yes in the meeting that
you were offered Deputy job not to run
he that's what you that's the question I
asked you is was that
true when I yes or
no well I want to answer because it
makes a difference the only reason I'm
saying he
said I could hire you as a deputy
supervisor okay and I said really
yeah okay and how would that work well I
could help I could train you how would
how would that how much would that okay
me finish how much would that pay I
don't know 20 grand okay that's fine
that was the extent of I want to know is
was offered okay that is bribery I'm
going to tell you why because it was
done in June and I've check I come in
here cuz everybody says come and talk to
us and I've talked to Pam and I talked
to Jennifer and I've talked a couple
other people that worked
here okay and you know what the excuse I
got he offered to train afterwards let
me tell you something if you're running
for supervisor and you offer a man a job
using Township money in June what are
you training him for are you retired he
ran he put big bigle bar signs in all
these businesses
yards this is briary these are election
law
violations why isn't this being taken
care of I'm sorry to me it's it's a
bribe I'm sorry it's okay Scott I'm
sorry somebody off if you go someone
tries to offer somebody
money all
right I think you guys should revisit
the voting on a cell phone or a laptop a
cell phone will cost monthly a laptop is
a one-time purchase but I think
after what he said about now you have a
Township email are you going to check it
on your personal cell phone because as
soon as you do you're opening your
personal cell phone up to
subpoena so I personally would not open
a Township email on my cell phone or my
home computer or anything else that I
personally own I think you should uh
revisit maybe getting what's a laptop
cost 800 bucks and it's a onetime
purchase and you're
done I would rethink that all right
thank
you
okay uh anybody
else looks like it's you
Jen come on
Jam um Janette
Retta um um so I'm obviously deeply
disappointed by the decision to move
forward with the cental
resolutions um these men have worked
tirelessly to bring transparency and
accountability speaking to the
microphone
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sure start my time again
please can restart the clock
please let reset it
yeah thank you I'm deeply disappointed
by the decision to move forward with the
cental resolutions against Greg Dean and
Chris tonight um these men have worked
tirelessly to bring transparency and
accountability to Tyrone Township and
this decision feels like a deliberate
attempt to silence them for doing what
they were elected to
do Greg admitted that he made a mistake
you guys did not listen to the rationale
behind it um but anyway let's not
pretend this process was fair these
resolution were drafted
in these resolutions that are in the
packet were drafted in
secret there was no open
discussion no input from all the board
members that was
tonight and worse the AC the accusations
so when Dean and Greg and Chris found
out about these guess when they found
out about them when they opened up when
they saw the the packet published
online that's when they saw that they
were going to be
censured pardon
me sorry um
so the accusations are vague which was
pointed out they're based on
feelings and
probably and a list of Ethics that
doesn't
exist so how does does this decision
build trust in the board and how does it
serve the residents of Tyrone Township
this centure isn't about accountability
it's about control and the message
you've sent tonight is that speaking up
and challenging the status quo will not
be
tolerated but let you me remind you the
residents who voted for Greg Dean and
Chris did so because they wanted change
they wanted leadership that would stand
up for transparency accountability and
fairness and tonight those same
residents are
watching and so the people in fact two
on the board here tonight who were
especially one Herman continually in
contact with me a resident who has
spoken out for almost four
years calling me and asking me what is
on the agenda tonight what should I say
I don't understand the
agenda yeah Sarah you know that that and
Sarah calling me and telling me and
texting me and telling me things about
the Planning Commission and you think
all all of you you think that she hasn't
said stuff about you and want you gone
too I would love to show my text
messages you know Sarah I keep
everything from day one got it all you
do like to weaponize it no no it's for
the truth and
transparency that's all it's for truth
and transparency so I'm going going to
ask that the same I'll finish my thought
I'll finish my
thought can I finish my thought without
the heckling please quickly okay quickly
I'm going to
ask let me finish please this isn't fair
bring to order I am come
on come on just let her finish really I
am going to ask that the board consider
putting Sarah dolman Jersey on for
discussion next board meeting to find
out and to talk about is it appropriate
for a board member to go on public radio
and discuss her fellow board members and
disparage them okay okay I'm asking that
you do that thank you she did quiet come
on come on
is there anybody else
yes hel yes
hel I just want to make a quick comment
quiet I've been watching this I've been
coming to meetings all the time all I
tell you guys this is fight us against
us and please they needs to stop stop
acting like children build up be
transparent we have to think about other
people who are coming to our Township
and trying to put that dirty p on our
Township and ruin
us laning Washington big Corporation
everybody's coming and trying to ruin us
we have to fight them not with us please
stop doing that's right you are right
helina thank you
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anybody
else okay dur the meeting all right I'm
looking for a motion to adjourn got a
motion support
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yeah the only people the only
people thank you
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know
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yes
yes couple off the floor that's what
happens
right oh I'm sorry
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do